tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4222475879097604897.post8805510973813005160..comments2023-10-31T10:21:00.796-04:00Comments on Thanks for the Use of the Hall: Frivolous Lists: ChinaDan Sallitthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13136066978329749513noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4222475879097604897.post-84432342165043568112007-06-23T00:46:00.000-04:002007-06-23T00:46:00.000-04:00It's true that there was something showmanlike...It's true that there was something showmanlike and sensation-oriented about <b>Devils on the Doorstep</b> that isn't my thing, but I kind of liked the film anyway - there was a lot of shading to the characterizations.<br><br>Wang just signposts everything so hard these days. He's always illustrating his theme, always using drama like a yellow magic marker on a school text. He's certainly a lucid storyteller, but sometimes I giggle at how solemn he gets.Dan Sallitthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13136066978329749513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4222475879097604897.post-31164005994878562622007-06-22T15:32:00.000-04:002007-06-22T15:32:00.000-04:00Several older Ning Ying films, including ON THE BE...Several older Ning Ying films, including ON THE BEAT, are available for online VOD through jaman.com.<br><br>I've only seen two Wang films, both later ones: BEIJING BICYCLE and SHANGHAI DREAMS. both struck me as interesting failures; a style is in place with which sharp, observational cinema could occur, but Wang forces things in very deterministic directions in both films. Hope to catch up with his older work sometime.<br><br>A list of my recent favorites, FWIW, would include Jiang Wen's DEVILS ON THE DOORSTEP, and ORPHAN would be a runner-up. I'm guessing you have no use for the Jiang film, Dan? (Seems a little too cartoonish and swaggering for you, but I could be totally wrong.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4222475879097604897.post-32652168594076964282007-05-31T13:59:00.000-04:002007-05-31T13:59:00.000-04:00I confess that the Fifth Generation didn't bow...I confess that the Fifth Generation didn't bowl me over. I never managed to enjoy Chen Kaige and Zhang Yimou; I was interested in Tian Zhuangzhuang as late as <b>The Blue Kite</b> (which would have been just under my top ten), but lately I'm not enjoying him, and I had a frighteningly bad time with <b>The Go Master</b>, which seems to have pleased a lot of people whose taste I respect.<br><br>There was a Fifth Generation guy named Huang Jianxin whom I used to like, mostly for <b>The Black Cannon Incident</b>.<br><br>Ning Ying had a film called <b>Perpetual Motion</b> at Toronto in 2005. It was a mixed bag, I guess, but I wound up kind of liking it.Dan Sallitthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13136066978329749513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4222475879097604897.post-62960948067634129012007-05-31T12:55:00.000-04:002007-05-31T12:55:00.000-04:00Do you dislike the Fifth Generation, or just not l...Do you dislike the Fifth Generation, or just not like them as much as Jia and co.? Their reputation has gone downhill lately, but Tian Zhuangzhuang's still seems pretty secure.<br><br>I like ON THE BEAT a lot as well. I wish it was easier to see Ning Ying's other films.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4222475879097604897.post-59564229550407406772007-05-30T11:03:00.000-04:002007-05-30T11:03:00.000-04:00Thanks, Dan. Your words are helpful.And just my $0...Thanks, Dan. Your words are helpful.<br><br>And just my $0.02, but I like the idea of your unearthing older comments, etc from other places (like AFB) and posting links to them or building little posts around them here. I go through the AFB archives and enjoy doing so, but get easily defeated by the sheer volume of it and slink away (to go back another day)...girishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05079328617099035797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4222475879097604897.post-46085929844375013352007-05-29T22:08:00.000-04:002007-05-29T22:08:00.000-04:00Girish - of the four films you asked about, I beli...Girish - of the four films you asked about, I believe I've seen only <b>Daybreak</b> and <b>Street Angel</b>. I'm not wild about either one, though I know that <b>Street Angel</b>, especially, has enthusiastic partisans. <b>Daybreak</b> is directed by Sun Yu, whom I admire; but it's just so shameless and lurid, and the propaganda angle is central to the film's concept. Sun was already a lively, fluid director and a good storyteller, but he was definitely on board with the barnstorming aspects that were giving me pause. <b>Street Angel</b> is more experimental and out there - kind of a cross between Dziga Vertov and the Three Stooges. Check it out, but I couldn't figure out what end of it to grab hold of.<br><br><b>Spring in a Small Town</b> is mandatory viewing, I guess. I liked it a little bit. Didn't quite see what all the fuss was about.Dan Sallitthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13136066978329749513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4222475879097604897.post-9722218938231539942007-05-29T21:17:00.000-04:002007-05-29T21:17:00.000-04:00Dan, I noticed that several older Chinese films ha...Dan, I noticed that several older Chinese films have come to DVD: <i>Crossroads, Street Angel, Daybreak, Twin Sisters</i>. Do you have any strong recommendations among these? <br><br>I was going to rent <i>Spring In A Small Town</i> first.girishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05079328617099035797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4222475879097604897.post-59029355630967597762007-05-28T23:08:00.000-04:002007-05-28T23:08:00.000-04:00I liked Orphan. If I recall correctly, I thought ...I liked <b>Orphan</b>. If I recall correctly, I thought the visual style was strong, but that the dramaturgy wasn't quite as unusual. But I'd like to see more by the guy.Dan Sallitthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13136066978329749513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4222475879097604897.post-66775173821426318822007-05-28T22:32:00.000-04:002007-05-28T22:32:00.000-04:00I'm a fan of Wang Chao's Orphan of Anyang ...I'm a fan of Wang Chao's <i>Orphan of Anyang</i> (2001). He had a film at Cannes last year called <i>Luxury Car</i> but I don't think it made it to N. America.girishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05079328617099035797noreply@blogger.com